'Stupendously large' black holes could grow to truly monstrous sizes

An artist's impression of the supermassive black hole at the center of a galaxy. Scientists suspect some monster black holes could grow to truly 'stupendous' sizes.
An artist's impression of the supermassive black hole at the center of a galaxy. Scientists suspect some monster black holes could grow to truly 'stupendous' sizes. (Image credit: ESO/L. Calçada)

How big might black holes get? A team of scientists now suggests black holes could reach what they call "stupendously large" sizes, each harboring the mass of 100 billion suns or more.

Discovering such gargantuan black holes may shed light on the nature of a significant fraction of the mysterious dark matter that makes up four-fifths of the matter in the universe, the researchers said.

At the centers of most, if not all, galaxies are supermassive black holes with masses that are millions to billions of times that of Earth's sun. For instance, at the heart of our Milky Way galaxy lies Sagittarius A*, which is about 4.5 million solar masses in size. 

Currently the largest known black hole, powering the quasar TON 618, has a mass of 66 billion solar masses. TON 618's enormous bulk led scientists to speculate whether or not even larger black holes exist, and if there is any upper limit to their sizes.

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A truly giant black hole

In the new study, the researchers dubbed black holes 100 billion solar masses in size or larger — bigger than any currently seen — "stupendously large black holes," or SLABs. Although they noted there is currently no evidence that stupendously large black holes are real, they noted that supermassive black holes almost that size do exist.

"It's surprising that little attention has been paid to the possible existence of stupendously massive black holes until now, because they could exist in principle," study co-author Florian Kühnel, a theoretical cosmologist at Ludwig Maximilian University in Munich, told Space.com.

A key question when it comes to stupendously large black holes is whether they could form in the first place. However, much remains uncertain about how even regular supermassive black holes are born. 

The conventional assumption is that the supermassive black holes at the hearts of galaxies formed as smaller black holes merged and gobbled up matter around them. However, previous research found this model faced challenges when it comes to explaining how black holes could have reached supermassive sizes when the universe was only a few billion years old, study co-author Bernard Carr, a theoretical cosmologist at Queen Mary University of London, told Space.com.

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Primordial origins?

Another way to explain how both regular supermassive black holes and possibly stupendously large black holes formed hinges on so-called primordial black holes, Carr explained. Prior work speculated that within a second after the Big Bang, random fluctuations of density in the hot, rapidly expanding newborn universe might have concentrated pockets of matter enough for them to collapse into black holes. These primordial black holes could have served as seeds for larger black holes to form later on.

If primordial black holes do exist, they might help explain what dark matter is. Although dark matter is thought to make up most of the matter in the universe, scientists don't know what this strange stuff is made of, as researchers still have not seen it; it can currently be studied only through its gravitational effects on normal matter. The nature of dark matter is currently one of the greatest mysteries in science.

"There has been a lot of interest in whether primordial black holes of modest mass could provide the dark matter," study co-author Luca Visinelli, a particle astrophysicist at the University of Amsterdam, told Space.com.

One way to detect stupendously large black holes is through gravitational lensing. According to Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity, the greater the mass of an object, the more it warps space-time around itself, and so the stronger the object's gravitational pull. Gravity can also bend light, so objects seen through powerful gravitational fields, such as those produced by black holes, are lensed. The researchers said that recent work has focused on finding gravitational lensing effects from smaller bodies, but they suggested that such research could look for stupendously large black holes as well.

Another way to detect stupendously large black holes is through the effects they would have on their environment, such as gravitationally distorting galaxies. These black holes could also generate heat, light and other radiation as they consume matter that astronomers could detect.

Aside from primordial black holes, another potential candidate for dark matter are so-called weakly interacting massive particles (WIMPs). If WIMPs exist, they would be invisible and largely intangible, but previous research suggested that if two WIMPs ever collided, they would annihilate one another and generate gamma rays, providing a way for scientists to spot them indirectly. The powerful gravitational pulls of stupendously large black holes would gather a halo of WIMPs around them, and the high-energy gamma rays that could result from WIMP annihilation might help scientists discover stupendously large black holes, Visinelli said.

All in all, "we know that black holes exist over a vast range of masses, so it's natural to ask if there is any natural upper limit," Carr said. "Some people may be skeptical about the existence of SLABs on the grounds that they would be hard to form. However, people were also skeptical about intermediate-mass and supermassive black holes until they were found. We do not know if SLABs exist, but we hope our paper will motivate discussion among the community."

The scientists detailed their findings online Aug. 18 on the preprint database arXiv and submitted the study for formal peer review.

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Charles Q. Choi
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  • rod
    This was a fun read. A black hole with 100E+9 solar masses, the Schwarzschild radius ~ 2.95E+11 km, diameter ~ 3948 AU. Sgr A* reported at 4.5E+6 solar masses. Schwarzschild radius ~ 1.3E+7 km, diameter ~ 0.18 AU. Should be even more fun if any BH this size are discovered and reported :)
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  • Atlan0001
    I suspect there is an upper limit to size within a universe. It will crunch and bloat to the point where it has "holed" so much it will itself fall into it and close up the hole behind it. The infinite of crunch is the Big Crunch and every wormhole of a blackhole points, leads, to it. One should always remember that it is not only a matter of mass-energy but also a matter of space-time. Or is it elastically contracting mass-space and expanding time-energy? In any case there should be a limit to its weight in point in the universe (before the particular universe simply drops it out, zeroes it out), a limit to its distortion of space-time before the wrap wraps to the point of snapping shut on itself (reaching the point where it becomes its own worst enemy, its own nemesis).

    It's not going to reach hyper-dimensionality, hyper-finite, or infinity, up or down, in or out, because such is already taken care of by the Universe. The most it could do is merge, and that is what I said above. So, it will have a limit. We just don't exactly what that limit is, yet. After all, size is a relative notion.
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  • Saguaro Jack
    Atlan0101 said:
    I suspect there is an upper limit to size within a universe. ...

    It's not going to reach hyper-dimensionality, hyper-finite, or infinity, up or down, in or out, ... So, it will have a limit. ,..,.

    So you conclude there is an upper limit because you suspect, and then say, there is one. Not very convincing. I suspect there's a limit, but it will be reached when all the material close enough to be sucked in is sucked in. There might be a SLAB at the center of some of those gargantuan voids where currently we detect nothing at all.

    Even so, after several quadrillion years, the universe might degenerate into SLABs slowly closing the distances between themselves and merging into SuperSLABs, then SuperMassiveSLABs, then UltraMassiveSLABS. It will be convenient for any creatures observing to already have handy the nomenclature for these bad boys.

    10-15 years ago I read in one of these popular science mags that there is a natural upper limit on black holes of 2 billion solar masses. There was a rationale but I don't recall it, meaning it didn't persuade me. In his short book about black holes back in 1977, Isaac Asimov speculated that the universe itself is a black hole. You know, finite but unbounded. Fun stuff to think about.
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  • David-J-Franks
    Saguaro Jack said:
    You know, finite but unbounded.
    Just a fun question, what does that mean? :)
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  • Saguaro Jack
    David-J-Franks said:
    Just a fun question, what does that mean? :)
    Einstein was the guy who said it, in response to a question about was the universe infinite. He said it has a finite amount of matter but that there was nothing to keep it from expanding forever (hence unbounded).
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  • -Just$tyle-
    you also have to consider the possibility of a supper massive black hole being able to grow to that proportion of size.
    Our galaxy currently contains the largest black hole discovered throughout the universe, what if TON 618 were to grow to those proportions or even bigger? If it could, id believe it would have devastating effect all throughout the Milky Way galaxy, along with the possibility of effecting the gravitational pull that the Milky Way and the Andromeda galaxies have on each other, dont you think so too?
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  • Geomartian
    Tall tales around the campfire.

    There is a giant something out there behind that bush!

    No matter what the angle of view or how close black holes are supposed to be we don’t ever have a clear image of them.

    Yet the scientific orthodoxy considers it heresy to suggest that black holes don’t actually exist.

    So much for evidence based science.
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