NASA astronauts can't wear Boeing Starliner spacesuits in SpaceX's Dragon. Here's why
"In a temporary situation, we would not have suits for Butch and Suni on Dragon."
In the unlikely event a space emergency arises on the space station in the near future, two astronauts will have to ride home without spacesuits.
Boeing's Starliner spacecraft is set to depart the International Space Station (ISS) empty no earlier than tomorrow (Sept. 6). It carried NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams up to the ISS and was expected to bring them home in Boeing-made spacesuits. But after Starliner's propulsion system acted up during docking with the ISS June 6, NASA eventually concluded that putting the astronauts on board for a return would be too much of a risk.
For a few weeks, a SpaceX spacecraft that flew the Crew-8 mission to the ISS will be the emergency vehicle available for Williams and Wilmore if the orbiting complex needs evacuation. But the Starliner suits are not compatible with SpaceX's Crew Dragon spacecraft, NASA commercial crew manager Steve Stich told reporters during a teleconference yesterday (Sept. 6). "So in a temporary situation, we would not have suits for Butch and Suni on Dragon," he explained.
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SpaceX and Boeing are the two commercial vendors tasked with sending up American-launched astronauts to the ISS. Each company not only has its own spacecraft, but its own spacesuits. (Russia also has its own spacecraft and spacesuits for the Soyuz spacecraft, which launches and lands crews from Kazakhstan.)
Crew-8 already has four spacesuited astronauts occupying its four seats as they conclude a half-year mission in space: NASA's Matthew Dominick, Michael Barratt, Jeanette Epps and Roscosmos cosmonaut Alexander Grebenkin. If required, Williams and Wilmore would ride home with the Crew-8 astronauts on the cargo pallet underneath their Crew Dragon spacecraft's seats.
As Crew Dragon is fully pressurized, there are no nominal issues for the two Starliner astronauts on board, but the tiny risk of depressurization could pose a critical risk.
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Such an accident has happened before, when the Soviet Union's Soyuz 11 crew of three died during landing after a valve popped open in their spacecraft; none of the cosmonauts was wearing a spacesuit.
On NASA's side, all crews have been spacesuited for launches and landings since the fatal Challenger space shuttle launch disaster of 1986 that killed seven astronauts.
But the chances of Wilmore and Williams having to ride home without suits are shrinking daily, as Crew-8's standby role for Starliner will not last for long. Crew-9, the next SpaceX astronaut mission for NASA, is set to launch no earlier than Sept. 24 for a normal ISS half-year mission. Crew 9's Crew Dragon will launch with only two astronauts, instead of the planned four, to make room for Williams and Wilmore. One spacesuit will also be shipped to the ISS sized for Wilmore, as Williams can use a SpaceX suit on board ISS.
"We do have one suit on orbit right now that fits Suni, and she's tried that suit on, and it fits well. That's a SpaceX suit," Stich said. "When we [NASA] set up the contract, we let each of the contractors to find their own suits and their own interface, and then we're sending up a suit for Butch that will fly up on Crew-9."
Crew-9's Crew Dragon will serve as the emergency evacuation for the four astronauts manifested to fly home on it: Wilmore, Williams, NASA astronaut and Space Force Guardian Nick Hague, and Roscosmos mission specialist Aleksandr Gorbunov. The nominal plan calls for the quartet to return to Earth in February 2025, after Hague and Gorbunov spend about five months in space and Wilmore and Williams, eight months.
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Elizabeth Howell (she/her), Ph.D., is a staff writer in the spaceflight channel since 2022 specializing in Canadian space news. She was contributing writer for Space.com for 10 years before joining full-time. Elizabeth's reporting includes multiple exclusives with the White House, speaking several times with the International Space Station, witnessing five human spaceflight launches on two continents, flying parabolic, working inside a spacesuit, and participating in a simulated Mars mission. Her latest book, "Why Am I Taller?" (ECW Press, 2022) is co-written with astronaut Dave Williams.
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SubSailor
So it took until the next to last paragraph to admit there is only one Astronaut (Butch) without a SpaceX suit, instead of two that most of this story is about.Admin said:NASA's Starliner astronauts will temporarily have an emergency spot available on a SpaceX Crew Dragon, but they can't wear spacesuits there. That will change in a few weeks.
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KateP2016 All American spacesuits, regardless of the spacecraft, should have universal connections, so they can work with each craft.Reply -
Dr. AB A bit of drama for nothing. They can comfortably come back in their underwear if they want. The suits only protect in the event of an uncomanded depressurization of the spacecraft, an event which is less likely than far more serious untoward events which would destroy the entire ship. Space X Dragon is like a 5 Star Hotel. It even has AC! (Boeing in contrast is more like Motel 6...but Boeing will leave the light on for you. Just bring your own helium.)Reply
I tell you. They just don't make spacecraft like they used to. I remember getting my first used one back in the day after I finished college. Only 500 bucks. I put many light-years on the old thing. Only problem was a bad clutch. It eventually rusted out during a trip to a distant galaxy. -
Koren Admittedly I'm unfamiliar with any problem it would cause, but could they not just load empty suits onto the ship sent out to rescue them and let the astronauts get changed? It seems like a pretty simple solution, but I suppose there are complications I'm unfamiliar with.Reply -
vadertime Honestly. How is it that the premier space agency in the Universe doesn't have a standard spacesuit. Really?Reply
Each spacessuit is custom configured for the manufacturers spacecraft. Maybe NASA should have designed or RFP'd for a standard spacesuit that would work with any spacecraft. Seriously folks, get your act together. Standarization. Our nation was built on that. -
Cisventure Astronot
Spacesuits have different capabilities. IIRC, The ACES is much more capable than SpaceX's suit, Which is more reliant on the capsule. So using the same connector would likely limit the spacesuit's and capsule's architectures. If we did that, then people would probably be complaining about a forty-year-old standard limiting innovation.KateP2016 said:All American spacesuits, regardless of the spacecraft, should have universal connections, so they can work with each craft.
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NASA wants dissimilar redundancy. And specialization has its upsides.vadertime said:Honestly. How is it that the premier space agency in the Universe doesn't have a standard spacesuit. Really?
Each spacessuit is custom configured for the manufacturers spacecraft. Maybe NASA should have designed or RFP'd for a standard spacesuit that would work with any spacecraft. Seriously folks, get your act together. Standarization. Our nation was built on that. -
Cisventure Astronot
Isn't that the plan?Koren said:Admittedly I'm unfamiliar with any problem it would cause, but could they not just load empty suits onto the ship sent out to rescue them and let the astronauts get changed? It seems like a pretty simple solution, but I suppose there are complications I'm unfamiliar with.
Crew-9, the next SpaceX astronaut mission for NASA… will launch with only two astronauts, instead of the planned four, to make room for Williams and Wilmore. One spacesuit will also be shipped to the ISS sized for Wilmore, as Williams can use a SpaceX suit on board ISS.
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JPL_ACE
A bad decision by NASA to allow each craft to have separate spacesuits. When more carriers start (like Siera) it will be a mess. Much more efficient to make them interconnect. Also, try to make them work in capsules, spacewalks, and eventually deep (radiation-filled) space.Admin said:NASA's Starliner astronauts will temporarily have an emergency spot available on a SpaceX Crew Dragon, but they can't wear spacesuits there. That will change in a few weeks.
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