Will SpaceX carry Boeing Starliner crew home? Here’s how Dragon could do it

an overhead view of five cupped seats for astronauts in a spacecraft, with a storage area underneath. one of the seats is in the storage area and the other four seats are mounted above with metal brackets
A generic view of SpaceX Crew Dragon with a five-seat configuration, one more than NASA's requested four seats for International Space Station (ISS) missions. At bottom, visible in black, is the cargo pallet area upon which more astronauts could be placed if new NASA task orders are executed for ISS operations. (Image credit: SpaceX)

NASA isn't sure yet if it will bring its Starliner astronauts home from the International Space Station in the Boeing capsule or put them on a SpaceX Crew Dragon.

Boeing's Starliner is more than 60 days into its first-ever crewed mission, a test flight that sent NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams to the International Space Station (ISS).

The flight was supposed to last just 10 days or so, but five of Starliner's 28 reaction control system thrusters unexpectedly misbehaved in the leadup to its June 6 docking with the ISS. Boeing and NASA have been working ever since to figure out what happened, and whether or not Starliner can safely carry Wilmore and Williams back down to Earth.

Starliner is rated to leave the ISS in case of emergency. But months of ground and space testing with Starliner thrusters have not given enough people at NASA's program control board confidence in the propulsion system yet, the agency said during a briefing on Wednesday (Aug. 7). (Overheating thrusters appear to be the chief issue, but not everyone agrees on the degree or the causes or the risk.)

So a variety of options are on the table. One of them is to pare the next ISS launch — SpaceX's Crew-9 — to two astronauts instead of four, to make room for Starliner's astronauts on that mission's Crew Dragon when it comes home next year. (Crew-9's liftoff was just delayed five weeks to Sept. 24, partly to keep that option open.)

Or Starliner's astronauts may squeeze underneath the four seats of Crew-8's Dragon and join those astronauts, who are on ISS right now, on their ride home, which is coming soon. While unusual, Starliner's situation is not the first time NASA has asked SpaceX to potentially take on extra people during an ongoing mission.

Related: How many astronauts can fly on a SpaceX Crew Dragon capsule?

Crew Dragon can hold more than four people; a version of the spacecraft released to the public in May 2014 shows it outfitted with seven seats. NASA requested a change to four seats in 2019 due to the angle of installation, as officials were concerned about g-forces on astronauts during landing, according to Spaceflight Now.

This wide shot of Dragon Version 2's interior shows the futuristic display screen and seven leather-lined seats. Image released May 29, 2014. (Image credit: SpaceX)

As NASA gets more spacecraft on the ISS, it's looking at multiple options to bring people up and down in different ways than the spacecraft they arrived in, agency officials said in Wednesday's briefing.

This outlook came into focus in late 2022, when a docked Russian Soyuz spacecraft sprung a coolant leak, crippling (but not totally disabling) its ability to come home with astronauts on board. Luckily, there was backup available at the time, in the form of a Crew Dragon.

Soyuz was the only ride to and from ISS between 2011 and 2020, after the retirement of NASA's space shuttle. But the agency funded the development of Crew Dragon and Starliner, with the aim of bringing crewed orbital spaceflight capabilities back to U.S. soil.

SpaceX sent its first crew aloft in 2020 after a single uncrewed flight test, while Starliner is on its first astronaut mission after two uncrewed test flights to the ISS — one in 2019 and another in 2022 — and several development delays.

Related: Russia releases 1st images of damage to leaky Soyuz spacecraft (photos)

Boeing's Starliner capsule is seen docked to the International Space Station during the Crew Test Flight mission in June 2024. (Image credit: NASA)

"The Soyuz coolant leak taught us quite a bit," Dana Weigel, ISS program manager, told reporters in the press conference. "We've always been protecting for anomalies on board station. But you can have any number of anomalies on a crew vehicle too, whether it's a micrometeoroid strike or anything else. So, smarter for us to always have backup-backup plans in place."

Until a newly manufactured Soyuz arrived at station a few months later, NASA and SpaceX together came up with a plan to install a Soyuz seat liner in the cargo area of Dragon, underneath the four seats. This allowed NASA astronaut Frank Rubio a backup ride home in case evacuation from the ISS was needed. (Rubio's two Russian crewmates were authorized to ride home in the coolant-challenged Soyuz, as two astronauts would heat up the spacecraft's interior less than three would.)

An short video clip of a Soyuz MS-22 spacecraft leaking coolant at the International Space Station on Dec. 14, 2022. (Image credit: NASA TV)

SpaceX's new task orders this summer came in part due to lessons learned about installing the seat liner for Rubio, Weigel said. 

"What we realized after that is, ideally, we wouldn't be taking the Soyuz seat liner and moving it. It is vulnerable to damage," she said. SpaceX's new solution uses a foam for cushioning returning astronauts on the cargo pallet, which "gives us a lot more flexibility and doesn't put that Soyuz seat liner at risk."

The Soyuz contingency plan is one of three task orders that SpaceX executed on recently, said Steve Stich, NASA's Commercial Crew Program manager. The other two task orders relate more directly to Starliner's situation.

Soyuz MS-25 crewmates Tracy Dyson, Marina Vasilevskaya and Oleg Novitsky wave from the base of their Soyuz-2.1a rocket prior to boarding their spacecraft for launch on March 23, 2024. They are part of the current Expedition 71 on board the International Space Station. (Image credit: NASA/Bill Ingalls)

One scenario would see two astronauts launch on Crew-9 with "a metallic ballast" in the remaining two seats, with the ballast designed to have a similar center of gravity as a pair of astronauts. The ballast would then be removed for Williams and Wilmore to come home on the Dragon in February 2025, when Crew-9 comes back to Earth.

The second scenario would see Crew-8 return with its four astronauts, with "up to three crew members" aboard its cargo pallet. Two seats would be for the Starliner astronauts, and the third — if necessary — would be for NASA astronaut Tracy Dyson, who flew to the ISS on a Soyuz this past March. So far, every indication is she will return home on the Soyuz as planned, but NASA said it is keep all options open in case of contingency.

The current SpaceX Crew-9 astronauts for the International Space Station. From left, mission specialist Alexsandr Gorbunov (Roscosmos), pilot Nick Hague (NASA), commander Zena Cardman (NASA) and mission specialist Stephanie Wilson (NASA). (Image credit: NASA)

Stich said such "contingency planning" is a normal course of work at NASA, even absent a crystallizing event like the Soyuz coolant leak or Starliner's current woes. "We think now we have the whole waterfront covered" in terms of possible ways to move crew members on Dragon, he said, adding that, when Starliner is carrying operational crews, it may one day serve the same function for SpaceX astronauts.

These backup plans do not necessarily indicate SpaceX will stand in for Starliner, Stich emphasized. "What we have done is totally reversible. We can fly Crew-9 as planned, as we've been planning for years [...] or we can plan to fly with two crew members," he said.

Crew-9's current manifest is commander Zena Cardman, pilot Nick Hague, mission specialist Stephanie Wilson and mission specialist Alexsandr Gorbunov. Cardman, Hague and Wilson are all with NASA, and Gorbunov is a cosmonaut with Roscosmos.

Weigel told reporters that NASA is not yet ready to reveal which crew members would be removed from Crew-9, if the need arises. As for which mission the displaced astronauts would join in the future: "We'll go look at future manifests and just see what what makes sense for the overall crew complements going forward."

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Elizabeth Howell
Staff Writer, Spaceflight

Elizabeth Howell (she/her), Ph.D., is a staff writer in the spaceflight channel since 2022 covering diversity, education and gaming as well. She was contributing writer for Space.com for 10 years before joining full-time. Elizabeth's reporting includes multiple exclusives with the White House and Office of the Vice-President of the United States, an exclusive conversation with aspiring space tourist (and NSYNC bassist) Lance Bass, speaking several times with the International Space Station, witnessing five human spaceflight launches on two continents, flying parabolic, working inside a spacesuit, and participating in a simulated Mars mission. Her latest book, "Why Am I Taller?", is co-written with astronaut Dave Williams. Elizabeth holds a Ph.D. and M.Sc. in Space Studies from the University of North Dakota, a Bachelor of Journalism from Canada's Carleton University and a Bachelor of History from Canada's Athabasca University. Elizabeth is also a post-secondary instructor in communications and science at several institutions since 2015; her experience includes developing and teaching an astronomy course at Canada's Algonquin College (with Indigenous content as well) to more than 1,000 students since 2020. Elizabeth first got interested in space after watching the movie Apollo 13 in 1996, and still wants to be an astronaut someday. Mastodon: https://qoto.org/@howellspace

  • vadertime
    Go with the Dragon. Send Starliner back empty.
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  • Viking
    Even if Starliner is declared safe, would the crew ride it back?
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  • Unclear Engineer
    And now there is this:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/nasa-report-boeing-damning-assessments-rcna165813

    "The report, released Thursday by NASA’s Office of Inspector General, calls into question Boeing’s standards and quality control for its part in NASA’s efforts to return astronauts to the moon."

    "according to the report, Boeing’s quality control systems fall short of NASA’s requirements, and some known deficiencies have gone unaddressed. What's more, the workers on the project are not, as a whole, sufficiently experienced or well trained, according to the inspector general."

    This report is focused on the Artemis project, but obviously has ramifications for decisions about StarLiner and the current CFT issues.
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  • brunodoggy
    I think it's safe to assume all the brightest and best Scientists and Engineers who are interested in space are going to be applying to the many new space companies and not want to work at Boeing and have it's legacy monolith around their necks.
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  • Unclear Engineer
    So, Boeing management is going through some changes:

    https://investors.boeing.com/investors/news/press-release-details/2024/Boeing-Announces-Board-and-Management-Changes/default.aspx
    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/new-boeing-ceo-seeks-restore-trust-stay-close-production-2024-08-08/

    I hope it works. We need companies like Boeing used to be.
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  • Laz
    it would be cool if they had individual "egg" escape pods that would survive re-entry and allow them to "sky-dive" from orbit.
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  • Viking
    vadertime said:
    Go with the Dragon. Send Starliner back empty.
    Let the CEO and CFO go up and bring it back.
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  • Unclear Engineer
    Laz said:
    it would be cool if they had individual "egg" escape pods that would survive re-entry and allow them to "sky-dive" from orbit.
    To give you an idea of how difficult that would be, think about the amount of energy a 200 pound astronaut moving at 17,000 miles per hour orbital speed has, and how to get rid of that. If my spit-ball math is correct, the energy in just the astronaut is enough to boil away 120 times his weight in water, starting from body temperature at 98.6 degrees F and ending as steam at 212 degrees F. So, that "egg" is going to need a lot of cooling, or a lot of rocket-powered deceleration before it hits the atmosphere, probably a combination.

    The other part of this problem is G-forces, both from any deorbiting rocket and from the rest of the deceleration by atmospheric drag. That has to happen slowly enough to not break bones of suffocate the person because of inability to take a breath. Each astronaut has a "chair" made to fit his/her body. So, any "escape eggs" would probably need to be personalized for each crew member. And it would require some sort of control system to make sure that it didn't slam into the dense part of the atmosphere at too high a velocity and crush or vaporize the whole shebang.

    Finally, if an egg can get an astronaut decelerated and through the atmosphere, it still needs to have some sort of parachute system for the final landing, because just a fall from a few hundred feet would still be fatal.

    And, there needs to be some strong structure to hold the astronaut, cooling gear, parachute (and some other stuff not discussed) together for all of that trip down.

    My guess is that it is more efficient to have one "egg" for several astronauts, rather than one egg for each. And, we already have such eggs, named "Dragon" and "Soyuz".
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  • HIBBIE35
    vadertime said:
    Go with the Dragon. Send Starliner back empty.
    Don't think it can comeback empty. Heard Boeing deleted the software required for remote control, they used on the first unmanned test flight.
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  • Unclear Engineer
    Apparently, NASA has delayed the Dragon Crew 9 to September specifically to provide time for Boeing to program the StarLiner for robotic reentry. So, that is not off the table - at least not yet. There are still the possibilities that (1) NASA will decide it is safe enough to put the crew in the StarLiner for the decent, or (2) that Boeing will "fail" to update (backdate) the capsule firmware, and it is stuck there unless and until it is suitable for crew.

    I would love to hear what Boeing's new CEO is telling the Starliner design/support team about now. But, he may not actually be in charge, yet - it's not official until the end of they year.
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